tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3397167328061019765.post7234290124761744567..comments2024-01-16T03:55:26.266-05:00Comments on Welcome to Pottersville 2 (Blogging Against Fascism!): You Cannot Depend On the Emergency Room for Free Care (Or Much Care At All But You Can Depend on Bills and Collections Agents) and Tribute to Real JFK Assassination Investigators Amid MSM FrenzyCirzehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07070125217972397204noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3397167328061019765.post-29161633008701226442013-11-27T15:41:11.556-05:002013-11-27T15:41:11.556-05:00Thanks, Tony. Great link to Oliver Stone's tho...Thanks, Tony. Great link to Oliver Stone's thoughts on what really happened.<br /><br />He's very persuasive and smart!<br /><br />Here it is again: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_ejzGPryL4#t=0<br /><br />Another few well-known facts for our further edification on the "patsy" from an 11/27/13 article from ReaderSupportedNews.org:<br /><br /><i># tomslockett 2013-11-27<br /><br />. . . the most significant information in Carl Gibson's 11/22/2013 <b><i>RSM</i></b> article was the statement that documents were disclosed, after a legal battle to declassify information containing statements from chief Warren Commission Council J. Lee Rankin,<b> a quote was revealed that Oswald "was employed by the FBI at $200 a month from September of 1962 up to the time of the assassination".</b> There should be documentation for this. If not, there should be assurances that such sloppy record keeping has been corrected. It is virtually inconceivable that, unless it was subsequently destroyed, information verifying this is not documented in some kind of work papers, financial, or payroll records. If so, and it is determined that this information has been covered up, this alone would be enough to discredit the Warren Report.<br /><br />Eye witness reports are well known to be unreliable and, while technically possible, it seems unlikely that such a shot could have been fired at a trajectory to hit Kennedy and miss everyone else and all parts of the vehicle, every inch of which must have been thoroughly examined in great detail.<br /><br /><br /># Gordon K 2013-11-27<br /><br />A lot can be learned by moving past the forensics. For example, Col. Fletcher Prouty (CIA-Pentagon liaison) wrote in <b><i>Gallery</i></b> </i>magazine (a <b><i>Playboy</i></b> knockoff) in the 1970s that <b>Secret Service</b> protocols were violated: <b>National Guard</b> troops trained to augment <b>Secret Service</b> manpower weren't assigned to protect Kennedy in Dallas, and officers who tried to correct the apparent oversight were told to stand down.<br /><br />The same protocols dictated that the Vice President should never be in the same motorcade (for fear of a double assassination), and the motorcade should never slow below 44 miles-per-hour, since at that speed, "leading" a moving target is extremely difficult. Both of these rules were violated in Dallas. It's also worth considering why Allen Dulles - the CIA chief Kennedy fired - was a member of the Warren Commission.<br /><br />All of this points to an inside job, a conspiracy (yes, we can use that word) from within the military-industrial complex. Kennedy's rejection of the Joint Chiefs' <b>Operation Northwoods</b> (a false flag operation designed to provide justification for invading Cuba) probably didn't help, either.<br /><br /><br /># goodsensecynic 2013-11-27<br /><br />Incidentally, maybe I missed it, but in all the TV coverage of the 50th anniversary, <b>I didn't see a single reference to the (Frank Church (ID)-chaired) Senate Committee investigation of political assassinations in the USA (JFK, MLK, RFK), which refuted the Warren Report and concluded that there was ample evidence of a successful conspiracy to execute JFK (who, among other things, was apparently about to break up the National Security Agency - you know, the people who are tracking your phone calls today)</b>.<br /><br /><a href="http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/20637-solving-kennedys-murder-a-modest-proposal-for-progress" rel="nofollow">Solving Kennedy's Murder</a>Cirzehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07070125217972397204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3397167328061019765.post-10628755947329492352013-11-26T14:26:24.770-05:002013-11-26T14:26:24.770-05:00Fair enough. Just saw this clip today by coinciden...Fair enough. Just saw this clip today by coincidence, in case you missed it......http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_ejzGPryL4#t=0TONY @oakroydhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08304486783392151133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3397167328061019765.post-81509924027304536222013-11-26T11:52:24.141-05:002013-11-26T11:52:24.141-05:00Oh, so it's a Costner mixup. Everyone hated Wa...Oh, so it's a Costner mixup. Everyone hated Waterworld, but Dances With Wolves? A triumph for him and everyone who enjoys history, I thought (except for native Americans who had a lot to say on the subject). I also just looouurved The Postman so don't downtalk Costner round here.<br /><br />On the subject of LHO let's at least agree that there are lots of intel agencies who had a fulltime job of disinformation about him beginning about 10 mins after the assassination of JFK. And that's on the record.<br /><br />Stay strong!Cirzehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07070125217972397204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3397167328061019765.post-27264273592728207912013-11-25T13:03:35.809-05:002013-11-25T13:03:35.809-05:00You're right, Cirze. The link was Costner and ...You're right, Cirze. The link was Costner and not Stone as I garbled it. Big admirer of Stone, a great filmic narrator. JFK is a long film as you know. The last time I watched it seemed like 10 minutes. As to the 'facts' I gave up trying to unwind the Gordian knot years ago. I know about LHO's murky past but even in that arena there are so many avenues and theories that I doubt if the truth will ever be known.Admired 'Dances' too but Costner made an arse of himself so many times subsequently that I find it hard to take him seriously. I thought he made a hash of The Untouchables which is an epic story as it stands in history. To have fights/chases on horseback was a Costner touch which just undermined the movie to my mind. The real story of Prohibition/Elliott Ness/Al Capone was one of Christian fundamentalism (Ness) against a lawless but burgeoning lust for hedonism across America. The story is the stuff of epic without any need for embellishment. Costner, in my opinion, trivialised it. Lost opportunity. Somebody, maybe Oliver Stone, should make a better movie about Dion O'Bannion, a smarter and more complex gangster than Capone. I would buy a ticket. <br />T. x TONY @oakroydhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08304486783392151133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3397167328061019765.post-33485030126676520502013-11-24T11:14:52.951-05:002013-11-24T11:14:52.951-05:00Which facts, Tony?
The reason I linked it was tha...Which facts, Tony?<br /><br />The reason I linked it was that all the trustworthy reviews said that its facts had been verified the best of any other such efforts, and they all ring true to my personal research.<br /><br />Stone himself was more than happy to share all his data with anyone interested, but no one in power was.<br /><br />He was the first to show the close ties of Oswald to the ONI, NSA, CIA, FBI and, of course, the military where he was trained in the Russian language and worked as a radar operator on the U2 right before Francis Gary Powers was shot down.<br /><br />Radar operators have no need of Russian usually, but they do if they are helped to defect to Russia (and later Cuba) for reasons known only to the intel world.<br /><br />I can't believe that you don't think the story interesting at least in light of the Snowman and Julian Assange's travels.<br /><br />Well, there's much more in the movie and I'd recommend that you watch it closely again if you have the time and inclination.<br /><br />It's a fun op in and of itself, and Oliver Stone seems a pretty brave guy to me.<br /><br />But what do I know, right?<br /><br />Oh, and Oliver Stone had nothing to do with Kevin Costner's "Dances With Wolves," which he himself produced.*<br /><br />Unless you mean that Kevin Costner had something to do with writing JFK, and I've found no data to support that. Or perhaps you're referring to Jim Garrison? Or Jim Marrs?**<br /><br />Love you,<br /><br />C<br /><br />* Dances with Wolves is a 1990 American epic western film directed, produced by, and starring Kevin Costner. It is a film adaptation of the 1988 book of the same name by Michael Blake and tells the story of a Union Army lieutenant who travels to the American frontier to find a military post, and his dealings with a group of Lakota Indians.<br /><br />Costner developed the film over a period of 5 years, with an initial budget of $15 million. Dances with Wolves had high production values[1] and won seven Academy Awards including Best Picture and the Golden Globe Award for Best Motion Picture – Drama. Much of the dialogue is spoken in Lakota with English subtitles. It was shot in South Dakota and Wyoming, and translated by Albert White Hat, the chair of the Lakota Studies Department at Sinte Gleska University.<br /><br />The film is credited as a leading influence for the revitalization of the Western genre of filmmaking in Hollywood. In 2007, Dances with Wolves was selected for preservation in the United States National Film Registry by the Library of Congress as being "culturally, historically, or aesthetically significant."<br />- Wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dances_with_Wolves<br /><br />** Upon JFK's theatrical release, many major American newspapers ran editorials accusing Stone of taking liberties with historical facts, including the film's implication that President Lyndon B. Johnson was part of a coup d'état to kill Kennedy. After a slow start at the box office, the film gradually picked up momentum, earning over $205 million in worldwide gross. JFK was nominated for eight Academy Awards (including Best Picture) and won two.<br />From Wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JFK_%28film%29Cirzehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07070125217972397204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3397167328061019765.post-60031939658172260592013-11-24T10:40:54.057-05:002013-11-24T10:40:54.057-05:00I enjoyed the JFK movie as a thriller. But as some...I enjoyed the JFK movie as a thriller. But as somebody said at the time, Oliver Stone followedF Dances With Wolves with 'Dances With Facts'.TONY @oakroydhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08304486783392151133noreply@blogger.com